{"id":384,"date":"2014-04-07T11:12:28","date_gmt":"2014-04-07T17:12:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/?p=384"},"modified":"2014-04-07T11:12:28","modified_gmt":"2014-04-07T17:12:28","slug":"worthwhile-causes-and-double-standards","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/worthwhile-causes-and-double-standards\/","title":{"rendered":"Worthwhile Causes and Double Standards"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This past weekend I spent what I considered an enjoyable time at general conference. As <a title=\"Seeking and Finding\" href=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/seeking-and-finding\/\" target=\"_blank\">I noted in an earlier post<\/a>, there were two major events planned in conjunction with the conference\u2014one by Ordain Women and the other by American Atheists.<\/p>\n<p>In <a title=\"The Ordain Women March on Temple Square\" href=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/the-ordain-women-march-on-temple-square\/\" target=\"_blank\">observing the Ordain Women event<\/a> and considering the way that their efforts have played out on the Internet over the past couple of months, I&#8217;ve noticed a couple of incidents of double standards at play and I thought I would address those.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Before doing so, however, I want to make something perfectly clear so that I am not misunderstood: In critiquing the tactics or approaches of Ordain Women and their defenders, I am in no way disparaging the motivations, desires, sincerity, honesty, integrity, or personalities of the people involved.<\/p>\n<p>During the past 24 hours I&#8217;ve had two unrelated sisters come to me, unbidden and unrequested, to comment on the Ordain Women event and the actions by leaders of the group. In both cases they stated &#8220;these sisters must not have testimonies.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This isn&#8217;t about testimonies, however, and I do not have the unclouded discernment to judge the hearts of those in Ordain Women. At root, this isn&#8217;t about the people or people&#8217;s beliefs; it is about what the people are doing in furtherance of their beliefs. It is not about personal virtues but about actions. While I cannot judge hearts or the intents of the heart, I can judge actions.<\/p>\n<p>Further, I am not questioning or disparaging the right of Ordain Women to attempt to further their cause. I do, however, believe that there are double standards at play and they should be brought into the open and discussed.<\/p>\n<h3>A Double Standard Regarding Reserved Space<\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_348\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/DSC_0063.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-348\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-348\" alt=\"People start to gather in City Creek Park before the Ordain Women event.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/DSC_0063-300x199.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/DSC_0063-300x199.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/DSC_0063-1024x680.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/DSC_0063-665x442.jpg 665w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-348\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">People start to gather in City Creek Park before the Ordain Women event. Note the preachers, with signs, at the left.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As I attended the Ordain Women event in City Creek Park, I noted that a few <a href=\"http:\/\/www.streetpreachersfellowship.com\" target=\"_blank\">Street Preachers<\/a> were in the park before the meeting began. Having talked to the preachers earlier in the day, I know why they were there\u2014they disagreed with the idea that women should hold the priesthood, even the priesthood of a sect the vehemently disagree with (the LDS). They wanted to make their feelings on the matter known.<\/p>\n<p>However, they were precluded from doing so. Ordain Women had reserved the park for their event, and the group had a permit, issued by the city, to gather and meet there. The police in attendance notified the preachers of this fact and the preachers peacefully moved out of the private space onto the public sidewalks just outside the entrance to City Creek Park.<\/p>\n<p>Contrast this with actions by the leaders of Ordain Women, under parallel conditions, with their event. The Church asked the leaders to not go onto Temple Square <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mormonnewsroom.org\/article\/church-asks-activist-group-to-reconsider-general-conference-protest-plans\" target=\"_blank\">19 days before the event<\/a>. As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sltrib.com\/sltrib\/news\/57778960-78\/women-square-church-temple.html.csp\" target=\"_blank\">stated by Kate Kelly<\/a>, the Church again asked the leaders to not go onto Temple Square on the day of the event, as the group approached the actual square.<\/p>\n<p>Twice asked to desist, the group still entered Temple Square, seemingly because the ends justified the means or, put a bit differently, their cause made such action appropriate. What if the Street Preachers had refused to leave City Creek Park, feeling that their cause justified the refusal? What if other protesters followed the lead of Ordain Women and entered Temple Square because they felt their causes were equally as important as was felt by leaders of Ordain Women?<\/p>\n<p>Some have tried to say that Ordain Women had a right to go onto the Church&#8217;s private property because they were more like &#8220;shareholders.&#8221; It is, after all, their tithing monies (and those of millions of other Church members) that pay for the upkeep of Temple Square.<\/p>\n<p>This seems, to me, a specious argument to make in this situation because the same logic would allow others to enter City Creek Park despite the fact that Ordain Women had a permit. It is taxpayers, after all, that pay for the park&#8217;s upkeep. Did not other citizens, then, have a right to enter the park and make their feelings about Ordain Women&#8217;s actions known?<\/p>\n<p>If the rights of the Ordain Women leaders in City Creek Park outweigh the rights of those who would disagree with them why do not the rights of the Church leaders in Temple Square outweigh the rights of those who would disagree with them? It seems, to me, that when the leaders of Ordain Women assert superior rights in both places they are applying a double standard.<\/p>\n<h3>A Double Standard in Assumptions<\/h3>\n<p>According to at least <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sltrib.com\/sltrib\/news\/57778960-78\/women-square-church-temple.html.csp\" target=\"_blank\">one who marched with Ordain Women<\/a>, &#8220;Our audience is the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve. That&#8217;s who we want to be heard by.&#8221; According to some, that intended audience <em>has<\/em> heard and <em>has<\/em> made some changes. The Church&#8217;s Public Affairs department (which is overseen by members of the Quorum of the Twelve) has certainly heard of the group, as the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mormonnewsroom.org\/article\/church-asks-activist-group-to-reconsider-general-conference-protest-plans\" target=\"_blank\">letter sent to the group on March 17<\/a> was signed &#8220;on behalf of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Other bloggers have been quick to ascribe to Ordain Women the decision to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deseretnews.com\/article\/865586991\/LDS-general-priesthood-meeting-to-be-broadcast-live-for-the-first-time.html\" target=\"_blank\">live broadcast priesthood sessions of conference<\/a>, women praying in general conference, and the addition of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sltrib.com\/sltrib\/blogsfaithblog\/57702450-180\/leaders-women-church-center.html.csp\" target=\"_blank\">photos of female Church leaders in the Conference Center<\/a>. (I&#8217;ve never quite bought the grand significance of putting photos of female Church leaders in the Conference Center. The Church has had, for 58 years, an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/locations\/temple-square-relief-society-building\" target=\"_blank\">entire building dedicated to women-chaired auxiliaries<\/a> and it has many pictures of female leaders. There is no equivalent for male leaders in the Church.)<\/p>\n<p>Ordain Women, though, is not satisfied with what it sees as incremental changes in women&#8217;s roles in the Church. Co-founder Kate Kelly has long maintained that the only success will be the ordination and advancement of women in all callings. As recently as <a href=\"http:\/\/janariess.religionnews.com\/2014\/04\/05\/founder-ordain-women-desires-complete-equal-footing-mormon-men\/\" target=\"_blank\">the day of the actual event she reinforced the group&#8217;s goal<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We desire not only incremental inclusion and greater roles and responsibilities, but to be on complete equal footing with men. I have stated many times, unequivocally: we want women to serve in all leadership capacities in the church, including Quorums of the Seventy, and as apostles and prophetesses.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To many such a goal is a stretch too far, so many Ordain Women supporters have said that they simply want the Brethren to &#8220;ask God&#8221; and see if ordaining women is possible. That much simpler goal is in keeping with the very last sentence of <a href=\"http:\/\/ordainwomen.org\/mission\/\" target=\"_blank\">Ordain Women&#8217;s mission statement<\/a>: &#8220;We sincerely ask our leaders to take this matter to the Lord in prayer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_383\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/OaksD.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-383\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-383\" alt=\"Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/OaksD-240x300.jpg\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/OaksD-240x300.jpg 240w, http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/OaksD-819x1024.jpg 819w, http:\/\/www.allenwyatt.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/OaksD-665x831.jpg 665w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-383\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The assumption, of course, is that the Brethren haven&#8217;t taken the matter to the Lord in prayer. In finding fault with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/watch\/2014\/04?lang=eng&amp;vid=3436246697001&amp;cid=3\" target=\"_blank\">Elder Oak&#8217;s masterful sermon on the priesthood<\/a>, one blogger going under the pseudonym &#8220;Mormon Heretic&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wheatandtares.org\/14042\/elder-oaks-lights-up-the-bloggernacle\/\" target=\"_blank\">questioned the apostle<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Have you actually sought revelation on the subject? You didn\u2019t reference a revelation or a scripture. Have you even tried to seek revelation as President Kimball did? Maybe you have, maybe you haven\u2019t, but could you at least tell us \u201cyes I have prayed, and God said \u201cno\u201d, or \u201cnot yet\u201d or something like that? Could you reference a scripture? You are a prophet, seer, and revelator, aren\u2019t you? I sustained you as such in both my temple recommend interview, as well as when I raised my hand in the sustaining of church officers. Come on and throw me a bone here.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This entire reaction strikes me as rather odd. Those who support what they view as gender equality are quick to attribute to Ordain Women&#8217;s involvement changes they see as favorable but just as quick to denounce definitive pronouncements they don&#8217;t like. Here&#8217;s part of what Elder Oaks said in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/watch\/2014\/04?lang=eng&amp;vid=3436246697001&amp;cid=3\" target=\"_blank\">his priesthood session sermon<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Even though [the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve] hold and exercise all the keys delegated to men in this dispensation, they are not free to alter the Divinely decreed pattern that only men will hold offices in the priesthood.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If one can assume that pictures in the Conference center are due to pressure exerted by Ordain Women why cannot one assume that such a definitive statement by Elder Oaks was done after asking the Lord, as Ordain Women requested?<\/p>\n<p>Ordain Women&#8217;s supporters are quick to assume gains are due to the group&#8217;s efforts even without a direct statement of causation, but dismiss the direct statements of an apostle because it lacks a statement of causation they desire. This seems, again, a double standard.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen no evidence that Ordain Women&#8217;s leaders overtly advocates the use of double standards in furtherance of their cause. They could go a long way toward discouraging such usage by stopping their use within their own ranks and asking they not be used by supporters.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This past weekend I spent what I considered an enjoyable time at general conference. As I noted in an earlier post, there were two major events planned in conjunction with the conference\u2014one by Ordain Women and the other by American Atheists. 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